After reworking most of the demo tapes from previous bodies of work, plus adding some recent Ableton works, the potential and limitations of Suno are evident. New insight into old pieces. Fascinating interpretations, interesting instrument combos, great vocals and vocal editing.
Without a lot of prep, Suno cannot deal with a thoughtful, changing composition. It want to roll everything into its aggregate learnings, truncating and just plain ignoring segments of the upload, and often formulaic and indecisive rendering. I've sent more versions to trash than I've kept. Supposedly it depends on use of the style prompts, but the AI is fickle and cheeky, and if you have a typo, or misspelling, or a key word that it can apply the opposite to, or ignore, it will. It also likes to throw up a 7 minute version of what it usually does in 2 to 3 minutes. But this isn't a properly fulfilled style prompt, either. It completely ignores the style prompts, adding vocals and vocalisations where not wanted. Try putting 'no guitars' - in some cases it just ignores that. Hilarious antics.
But original composition remains paramount for me. I really cannot stand the bland slop it creates, the false excitement, the continually style changes without letting a groove set in, etc if there is no constraint.
However, it is fascinating to have scratched the surface. I did want a time out from Ableton work, as it's been 13 years of comprehensive use and huge amount of original material on hand. So many ideas. So I greatly value the Suno platform as a tool beyond Ableton, in a sense.
It summarises your style and gives a capsule comment, here is mine after very many uploads and covers thereof.
Core sound: English-language electronic-jazz-funk with art-rock edge; exact-source fidelity, high contrast, dramatic focus.
Production: Synth-driven grooves, funk pocket, occasional orchestral pop lift, backing vocals, acoustic piano touches.
Lyrics & mood: Surreal wordplay, satire, tribute, social commentary. Admiration, irony, frustration, belonging.
Avoids: No heavy improvisation. No vocal ad-libs. No loose timing.
I don't let Suno improvise, as the original upload (my pre-Suno demo version) contains all the improvisations if required. The AI is just not (yet?) sensitive or subtle enough to be able to improvise my particular style successfully - in my opinion.
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